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Aug26
Real Estate Mass Psychology - Seth Godin

Seth Godin read the same New York Times article yesterday that I did (though it was syndicated to a different newspaper - the content is the same -  Your home as a piggy bank? Not anymore) and came up with this insight - "it's up to the Real Estate Marketers to get us out of the SubPrime Mortgage Mess (see subprime lending, James J. Cramer's Bloody and Bloodier sub prime crisis)!

I don't believe that marketing will fix hundreds of billions of dollars (perhaps a Trillion Dollars worth) of almost worthless ARM Subprime Mortgage Securities that no one now wants to trade or buy?

I like the idea - but it's one thing to apply it to a Ferrari that people aren't defaulting on (in huge numbers) and a housing market where the value of the house is going to go down in California but close to 30%, adjusting for inflation.

"...The shared belief about real estate might be in danger. The facts changed this month for the first time. The question that those that market real estate have to answer is this: will people treat a bounce in real estate the way that they think about a drop in the stock market (a chance to profit) or will it lead to a long-term reevaluation of what it means to own a house?

It's interesting to note that insurance on a Ferrari isn't as expensive as you think. That's because fixing a million dollar Ferrari doesn't cost nearly a million dollars. It's the serial number that you're buying--the right to sell that car later for a profit."

I believe there's a role for real estate marketing - to make sure people still see the value of owning a home (it appreciates in value ...even if it does go down somewhat over the next 3-6 years) but it's hardly the solution to a much more complex problem - what are we going to do with all those worthless securities or the glut in real estate that now exists?

It's not like there's 50,000 more Ferrari cars than buyers for them - or the Ferrari value is going down daily because those who have Ferrari's took out loans whose interest appreciated too quickly for them to make monthly payments on it.

So, the idea is good, but how does the Real Estate Marketer make sure people think the houses are still a sure security blanket when ......more and more evidence is being produced to show they're not.   

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Not everything is a marketing problem. In fact, most often what are expressed as marketing problems are not. Sub-prime mortgage securities traded at only a few basis points above treasuries. People forgot how to price risk. We will all now be treated to a lesson in risk. Thank you for making a rational observation.

You guys are missing my point, I think.

First, there aren't enough houses. The demand for houses is there. What's disappearing is the belief that if you buy a condo in Florida, boom, tomorrow it's going to be worth a lot more than it was today.

The interesting analogy isn't just Ferraris (which are worth what they're worth not because of scarcity, but because of something related to scarcity... the believe that tomorrow they'll be worth more [Corvairs are scarce too])... the analogy is the stock market. A piece of stock of a typical corporation is worth exactly zero. Unless someone thinks it's worth more than that.

And why would they think that?

Because they believe someone ELSE is going to think it's worth even more. And so on.

So, the mortgage market is a mess, true. But if everyone believed that real estate was going to soar, the mess would disappear. This happens in the stock market every ten years or so.

So, yes, it's a marketing problem.

Seth,

According to James Cramer's article in the New York Magazine subprime lending, James J. Cramer's Bloody and Bloodier sub prime crisis ( http://www.webmetricsguru.com/2007/08/subprime_lending_james_j_crame.html ), which I'm using to understand the SubPrime Mortgage Mess, the problem was not marketing, as much as the way the Adjustable Rate Mortgages were "marked" by the rating agencies in June 07.

As a result of that "marking" of the, now, next to worthless, trillion dollars of ARM Securities, we're all in the Mortgage Mess. If people could, the last thing they'd do is give up their homes, but the can't afford the interest hikes, esp on the more exotic loans.

So if it's a marketing problem, it must be the rating agencies like Moody's that need to be marketed to, not the home buyers...but that's just the way I read it.

You know more about this stuff than I do - I don't own anything really, but am a web analyst and tried to understand how the events unfolded -and wrote them down, based on Cramer's article, as best I could, along with my own take.

To me, Marketing would not be what comes to the top of my mind after reading Cramer's interpretation of events that have led us here..but I'm interested to know what your take is

Seth,

I'm a marketer so I'd like to believe marketing could solve this problem. Marketing of mortgages and real estate helped get us into this spot. Good people bought into a too-good-to-be-true real estate ownership dream and took on debt they couldn't handle because marketers were less than transparent about the risks involved.

The supply of real estate is not our current problem and marketing to stimulate greater demand wouldn't necessarily fix the problem.

The problem is that the virtually unlimited supply of cheap irresponsible capital has dried up. Investors have hit the breaks abruptly and it will take some time for the credit pendulum to swing back hard enough for real estate speculators to recover.

Oh yes, I think that anybody who buys anything at multiples of their annual income with little or no money down is a speculator not an investor. The shame is that it became so common in the last few years that many fine people have been sucked into this mess.

We'll recover but not before some heart ache.

Perhaps this is too simple of a concept to afford it credibility, but is has been years of buyers who have been fiscally irresponsible that has helped to lead to this dreaded affair. Jeff, you mention that "many fine people have been sucked into this mess". At the end of the day, can we blame some of the fine folks in lending and real estate for this mess- many didn't help, but not all hindered. Can we use educational marketing and start to correct these situations by helping to reinforce the idea of an educated, responsible homebuyer, one who should probably save a downpayment before they look to buy a home, or pull a higher price tag than what they can reasonably afford. And what about purchasing within your means- hmmm...what a concept.

The real estate of earlier years, if you ask me, has been a little scary. A correction was bound to happen.


Rebecca D. Levinson- http://www.connect2agent.com

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