Posted by Marshall Sponder on January 14, 2010 | Link It
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Earlier today I read how Google is ranking Twitter feeds (see Want Your Tweets on Google? Get More (Better) Followers in Marketing Pilgrim) and thinking about equivalencies – that Google equated Twitter Followers to website backlinks and, as in Pagerank, the more people who follow you, that you don’t follow back, the better Google will rank you (just like web pages are ranked).
Imagine then, what would be the equivalent of “keyword research” in Search Engine Optimization or Search Engine Marketing ……. for Social Media? Somehow, my mind must have been inclined to think this way today – as I suddenly realized that “researching conversations” or “conversations research” is the direct equivalent of researching keywords for Social Media.
How would that work?
To test the idea out, I’m using Sysomos Map, one of my favorite Social Media Monitoring platforms – and one of the best for filtering out noise and focusing on essentials. I suppose you can say, in this context “Sysomos” is the equivalent to “WordTracker“, but that would not be doing justice to Social Media Monitoring – which does a lot more than WordTracker and similar platforms were created to do.
Take the query “Social Media” AND ROI – lots of people are talking Social Media ROI thesedays – and searching on Google AdWords Keyword Tool, WordTracker, WordStreams free Keyword Tool, Google Insights for Search, etc, will give you one type of view, while “Conversation Search” or “Conversation Mining” as my friends at Converseon call their platform, will give you something entirely different, and perhaps, more useful.
What I’m looking for are keywords in conversations that could be included in our own conversations about “Social Media ROI” much as you would have done for SEO, but with a 2 dimensional keyword tool like WordTracker.
On first pass, words such as “analytic”, “market”, “measurable”, etc occur most frequently, and so …. are they part of your communication or marketing material …. if you talk Social Media ROI, if not, maybe … they can be …. if you want to increase the changes your conversation will be picked up by more listeners.
Taking a second pass, by including all the words in the right column I get the following chart, that looks different than my first.
Now, I get “integrated”, “investment” and that integrated investment is connected with “facebook” you might want to creatively add those phases to what your writing – that is, if there is a legitimate reason to do so – otherwise your just “keyword stuffing”, and I don’t recommend anyone do that.
Only use the phrases that “fit”, that you mean to use – my point being – you probably aren’t aware of all the phrases you could use in your “conversations”.
Going one more level – we get “Successful Companies Value“, etc.
You can also get information about each word and how it appeared in all content that Sysomos MAP crawled; take the word “tactic” for example:
The practical implementation of this strategy which I’ve just shared with you will take time – I’ll need to play with it some more. Maybe you will, too, and share with me some of your insights. I like to say, the more we give, the more we get back.
We should never be afraid of sharing ideas, as more ideas come to replenish the ideas and I believe, there is no limit. Even if you took this idea way beyond what I’ve done, or will do with it, that’s fine. I’ll get 10 more, no, 100 more ideas for every one I give to you – so I’m very happy with that arrangement.
I will leave you with one more thing from Sysomos – Influencer Search – it’s pretty decent – I was able to use it on obscure subjects and in about an hour come up with the names and contact information for 20 influencers (out of three times as many). For Social Media ROI – the 5 most authoritative blogs are no surprise (specific posts that were most influential were linked to in every case).
However, while those blogs are the most authoritative that came up in the search for Social Media ROI, they might not be the most relevant for it. Sysomos has another filter that includes frequency to mentions to authority – and that gives a list of 5 very different blogs – probably the one’s you should read if you want to know more about Social Media ROI:
So, to finish this long post – the ideas I share with you need to be developed – do you have a campaign that is not getting talked about much, that maybe, ought to be – and while you also need to put in the strategy work (aka Jacob Morgan) and then do the outreach – might you not also be needing to do your basic “Conversation Research” – not just what people are talking about – but the other things surrounding it – that maybe “you” ought to be including in your conversation.
So, let’s test this idea – let’s mine “conversations” and see what we come up with – and if you don’t have Sysomos, there are other tools to do it with – even Google Insights for Search could be a proxy (but not as good) – maybe a Free account with Alterian/Techrigy/SM2 will work (they give you a limited # of searches though – but it will be enough for a test run).
Posted by Marshall Sponder on November 02, 2009 | Link It
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Actually, I did this presentation for the panel I’m speaking on focusing on the Future Of Social Media Monitoring at Monitoring Social Media 09, yesterday. Turns out, panelists don’t need presentations at #msm09 (unlike Search Engine Strategies and Emetrics Summit). Not a problem, as it got me to think about what I think the Future of Social Media Monitoring is, and the current problems that exist now.
Here’s my presentation on Slideshare – let me know what you think.
In The Truth about Social Media Data – I’m expecting to hear “who” is collecting the data and partnerships where the data is being resold or “white labeled” ….
The Truth About Social Media Data Giles Palmer, Founder and Managing Director, Brandwatch
With leading brands increasingly turning to social media for insight, feedback and guidance, social media data is under the spotlight. Questions about it’s origins, accuracy and scope have the potential to undermine the whole monitoring industry. In this session Giles Palmer, who has successfully led more than a hundred organisations through the murky world of social media data, explains where it comes from, who controls it, how it is filtered and categorised, its inherent flaws and limitations, and how to avoid misreading the information you are presented with.
In fact, white labeling of monitoring platforms is happening and has been happening for a while – and it might be there are only a few companies pulling the data in the first place off the web. I know that Alterian/Techrigy/SM2 is white labeling their platform (though I never saw an example of it) and I know Radian6 white labels CisionPoint (I’ve personally seen this) and some contact management platforms, and CRM platforms, like SalesForce, are using Radian6 as a “gigantic EAR” and wrote about it in a few posts at Webmetricsguru.com where Social Media and Web Analytics are going to be merging more and more (which hearkens back to my session on The Future of Social Media Monitoring panel, earlier in the day).
” …. you’ll be alarmed at a new article from the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) that outlines how third parties are getting access to your personal information. Sites such as CareerBuilder.com are utilizing cookies from up to ten different tracking domains. These sites are using hard-to-delete cookies that remain on your computer system long after you’ve browsed the site.
Yeah, never liked CareerBuilder.com, but then, I used to work for Monster.com – so why would I? … and that’s what I’m hoping he’ll tell us, and what we can do about it. Yes, I’m looking for conspiracy theories in this session (after all, doesn’t the title of this session suggest that?) – lets see if Giles comes out and says that. We’ll see.
If Giles Palmer says what I hope he’ll say – and more – it’ll be worth the plane trip, hotel and conference admission price, in London, even if I wasn’t speaking (but I am speaking). I’m tired of going to Social Media conferences that just repeat what we already know, give me something new – Giles. I bet he will.
In the next session, I’m expecting a Case Study – my guess is it’ll be sufficiently detailed to glimmer at some truths we all need to apply with Social Media Community Building ….
The Power of Listening & Responding: Skype Robin Grant, Managing Director, We Are Social
Robin will talk about how We Are Social helped Skype to set-up and run their own real-time social media listening and responding programme. He will provide insights into the tools and methodologies used and explain the impact social media monitoring had on Skype’s business. He will also describe how it helped them to manage a major crisis.
The key to this session is finding out what they did, specifically, and how it actually turned things around – I’m not expecting to find out anything that revolutionary here, but if I did, I’d be glad – if I found something about community building, reacting quickly, etc, that is generally not well known or understood, but could be ground breaking - I’ll just go on the record as saying – I’m not expecting that level of insight from this session, but if it happens, it’ll an added bonus for being at #msm09 .
In Surviving in iPhone Territory - I hope Chris Thomas gets into the nitty gritty of what platforms he used (I’m thinking Crimson Hexagon – sorta suggested by the title – but maybe I’m wrong) and how hard it was to come up with the insights – how many hours did it take, how many people worked on it – what kind of problems they came across when pulling the data – and what they learned about the HTC and how to launch it against the iPhone that they’d not know about unless they ran this study (in other words, Social Media ROI came out of it).
Surviving in iPhone Territory: A Competitive Analysis of the Launch of the HTC G1 Chris Thomas, Head of Research, The Conversation Group (TCG)
Chris Thomas presents the findings of a TCG research project covering the launch of the HTC G1 – the first smartphone to use the Google Android operating system. The project showcases the contribution of social media research to competitive intelligence, brand positioning and strategic communications. Covering a three month period around launch, and including almost 100,000 unique items of discussion content. The presentation offers lessons for the effective blending of quantitative and qualitative analysis methods, and evaluation of the relative contributions of a range of free and licensed monitoring and analysis tools.
So far, Crimson Hexagon seems to have gone the farthest, of all the entrants in this Social Media Monitoring arena, with the potential implications and applications of merging qualitative with quantitative data, but they have yet to carry it out nearly as far as they could, or should, in my opinion. It would be nice is someone from Crimson Hexagon was in the audience – or even, on a panel, but I don’t think they’re going be there – they should be.
Developing the idea of merging – what if Crimson Hexagon‘s analysis of Obama’s HealthCare Speech last month to Congress, using Twitter accounts only, captured not only the opinions about how people felt (qualitative data on sentiment and opinions- see below)
… but what if Crimson Hexagon also collected the Twitter accounts of each opinion along with the opinion mapping? I know they have the data, they have a 75% to 80% accuracy, at this time, of mapping snippets to the actual opinion categories, and a 3% error rate in drawing out the percentages of each category – why couldn’t they take a stab at matching it up – or … we’d find out the match is pretty noisy …. maybe we’d contact half the people we could identify who said Obama’s speech was great and find out they don’t agree – or maybe we’d find out to what degree they did agree. Maybe we’d approach the people who said Obama lied, see if that categorization is accurate. We’d go to the next level or two with this data – because that’s what is logical to do.
Now, I’m familiar with STA Travel - I used to have a client who I did web analytics for that did Irish, Scottish and English vacations – STA is one of the biggest travel firms Europe, but getting travel agencies to use Social Media has been …. well, as fruitful as getting Architects to use it …. travel agencies have been, mildly stating it, un imaginative and not willing to take risk, at all, which is what Social Media, today, requires.
Getting Started with Social Media: STA Travel case study Celia Pronto, Marketing Director, STA Travel
Most brands know they should get involved in social media, but where should you start? Hear from STA Travel how they moved from traditional marketing to placing social media at the heart of their business, including: Getting internal buy-in, How they developed their strategy, What measures they use to define success.
That’s why this session should be so interesting – think about it – there’s so many opportunities to get user generated content from people who take trips using travel packages – of using YouTube and other video data to augment views of a particular hotel, travel attraction, even a particular travel package that is still running – along with the TravelAdvisor reviews of hotels and restaurants that we’re already able to use for the last couple of years.
IN booking this trip to London next month, I used Expedia and got a good deal on a 4 star hotel and RT flight – because I read those reviews and looked at the pictures, and looked, and looked … in fact, I visited Expedia on at least 5 occasions to do research before I booked. What do you think I got in email box a few days ago – contact with a personal team that will answer all my questions about London and a custom mini guide to London, sent to me as PDF – I didn’t get that two years ago when I was last in Paris for LeWeb07 and I booked my flight and hotel with Expedia. Here’s Dave Sifry explaining it, himself (hint: maybe Dave Sifry ought to come to #msm09 and explain his custom travel guides in person)
Dave Sifry has been doing just that – custom Travel Guides – and testing it out at LeWeb 07, which I attended – though I didn’t come in contact with Dave Sifry there (but Scoble and Sifry had dinner – I wasn’t invited – ha, ha – and that was half the reason I went – to hang out – and go the Louvre, of course). Maybe Dave sold his technology to Expedia – or maybe what he does is a much more customized version of what Expedia is now trying to do.
Maybe it’s not just for the publishing industry – but for the Travel Industry …Duh!
” … This could be a game changer for book publishing. A new company called Offbeat Guides produces personalized travel books based on your itinerary and travel details. It was founded by Dave Sifry, a serial entrepreneur (and friend) from San Francisco who previously led Technorati and LinuxCare. Dave has participated in our We Media conferences for many years. He’s steeped in knowledge and awareness of how the web is changing behavior and creating new opportunities to inform the planet. Here’s Dave’s blog post on the new business, which just opened for public beta, and more about personalized publishing from the company blog here.
I may add, the Travel data is pulled of the Web, in real time, and customized to you (maybe I’ll get one, just to compare with what Expedia gave me). Ideally, Dave ought to just supply it to Expedia, STA, etc, for a fee – but that’s a creative use of Social Media – since some of this information might come from user reviews and insights – and I can see where it could be made even better by adding personality type matching with YourUniverse or something similar – I think YourUniverse – http://www.youniverse.com/ had a fascinating – I took a bunch of tests last year but then lost touch with it – but coupled with Sifry’s guide – it could be a very, very, powerful combination.
In fact, using http://www.youniverse.com/ with Travel Agencies Social Media could be a “Killer Application” if done well. Just another one of my insights – fortunately, YourUNIVERSE has done the bulk of the work - so messing this one up really will be in how the data is matched up with your itinerary – I suggest a partnership with them – they have the best network for personality testing with images – maybe the only one – best to build on it.
Travel agencies have clearly been late to the game, yet Travel Agencies, have the most to gain, in many ways, from Social Media – due to the wealth of content and the willingness to share it - so I’ll be looking at what Celia Pronto says about the Social Media program STA put in place. I’m expecting a very good case study here on the value of Social Media for STA, in terms of bookings, customer satisfaction, loyalty – Net Promoter Score, even – this is what I am hoping to hear. It also would be nice to hear about how STA “enabled” customers to share their data with each other.
In Social Networking Data – I’m expecting Paul to talk about, and begin to summarize what has been discussed earlier in the day and pick up on the Crimson Hexagon example I gave above.
Social Networking Data – The Vital Ingredient for 360 Customer Understanding Paul Alexander, CEO, Beyond Analysis
Social networks have the potential to provide companies with instant, reliable and valuable feedback – to help them reduce their reliance on expensive market research. But how useful is this new data source? Can “buzz” ever match the quality of traditionally researched data? And how far can casual online interactions be used to map transactional or behavioral shifts? In this session Paul Alexander demonstrates how several leading brands are approaching these questions and found answers to them.
The question becomes, how useful is this data if Sentiment Analysis is only 60% accurate and is often not even related to the Topic our using the Social Media Monitoring Platform to discover? Since the data is so “unstructured” and “noisy” without significant work to clean the data and structure it – might the results be more of a detractor than not?
I think we’ve been there before, and I doubt this session will actually tell us something that new, but it would be good to hear about what measures are used for “Success” and get something actionable (i repeat, actionable) from this session about how we can sell social media to resistant stakeholders and clients that are still afraid to dip their toes into the pond.
In what appears to be the last session (unless the listings are not chronological) we get a discussion of free vs. paid tools
The Price of Knowledge: Free vs. Paid Monitoring Tools Brad Little, Director, Industry Solutions Online, Nielsen
When choosing a social media monitoring tool, there are lots of questions to consider: why are there so many approaches and services? How are they different? What justifies the price variances? Can’t we get this for free? What is being measured? What resources should we invest? In this session Brad examines the differences between social media monitoring tools, how they work and what to consider when choosing a provider. He will aim to get beyond the sales hype and look under the bonnet to help you select the right solution for your company.
Personally, I would prefer to see this session and the Future of Social Media Monitoring (which I’m speaking on) switched in sequence. Here’s why.
First, the issue of weather to use Google Alerts, HowSociable, BackType, TweetDeck, Freeninum version of Alterian/Techrigy/SM2, etc … vs. Cision, Radian6, Crimson Hexagon, Collective Intellect, etc, etc …. is one that every person faces in this field – it comes up over and over – and is best dealt with at the beginning of the day – where we can uncover pros and cons which we can then take to us to the following sessions.
Furthermore – the discussion of “free” vs. “paid” tools mirrors the same arguments going on in the Web Analytics arena - with Google Analytics, with it’s free, but powerful platform, pushing other vendors out of business since buying Urchin, or pushing the like Omniture, Coremetrics, WebTrends, into directions they’d not ordinarily want go in (such as the Omniture acquisition by Adobe last month and the matching up of Radian6 data with WebTrends – plus the SalesForce.com connection with listening platforms).
This week, at Emetrics Summit, Google is going to announce something new with Google Analytics - what if it was the acquisition of one of the Listening Platforms (like Radian6, for example) and it’s merging with Google Analytics data – which would be logical – would that not be a game changer?
I don’t know if that’s what Google is going to announce this time – but who has the most data in the world in one place? Google. Who has the most to benefit from adding Listening Platforms into Analytics and Advertising … Google.
I predict, something like this will happen in the next year or two – and it will change the game – in a big way. I can’t tell you it will happen next week – or next year – but it will happen. Prepare for it. Pro, it will help everyone but will hurt some of the big players. That’s all I can say now – consider it an Intuitive, Prophetic Flash – one that seems logical, given where its all going.
Second, The Future of Social Media Monitoring – should be the last session of the day, because in many ways it’s forward facing and may be impacted by what was said in some of the other sessions – such as “The Truth about Social Media Data” (where are future is going to be data about us being “sold off” or not?) or the impact of new developments in listening technologies like Crimson Hexagon have in Public Relations (after all, several PR firms have been building on Social Media, of late, building Social Media into their campaign pitches – and the Monitoring and Measurement of Social Media, and I should know – because I’m personally involved with that at this moment).
I believe Monitoring Social Media 09 next month, in London, on November 17th, ought to be widely covered – and if your able to make it - (anyone who wants to come to #MSM09 can get a 10% discount by using codeMSM0910).
Hope to see any of my readers who are at the #MSM09 or a Tweet-up in London, that week – details will be following in a few weeks.